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2007-10-05 [Jitter]: [Vampire Akis] your entry isn't following the theme.
2007-10-06 [Kshatriya Karahatay]: I don't know, I think it [Vampire Akis]'s entry could fit, depending on how you see it. If you figure that Adam and Eve partook of the fruit because they were greedy and wanted the fruit and the knowledge for themselves (and look at all the trouble the sin of greed has caused) it could work. I know it's somewhat different from the typical take on them, but I think it could fit.
2007-10-06 [Skydancer]: Jitter makes those decisions. Its not a democracy.
2007-10-06 [Jitter]: Well if it was a contest about sin in general then it would be very welcome, but the theme is clearly to portray the seven deadly sins :)
2007-10-07 [Vampire Akis]: All of them? I just don't get it. [Kshatriya Karahatay] knows what I mean. It's about Adam and Eve indeed. They had all those fruits, all theirs, but they wanted more. Even that one. That's why they ate it. See what I mean? Greed, it's a deadly sin. why isn't it following the theme?
2007-10-07 [Jitter]: Of course not all of them. Unless you want to. That's clear in the rules.
You're not portraying Greed in an apparent way though. This is about seeing an image where the sin is apparent and you can understand it without a long text accompanying it. The apple depicts the original sin and not one of the seven deadly sins.
2007-10-08 [Kshatriya Karahatay]: Though [Jitter] has the final say and I understand where she's coming from, kudos to you [Vampire Akis] for taking a different perspective and making an image that caused me to stop and ponder over why you paired the apple of original sin with the title of greed.
2007-10-08 [Jitter]: It's a nice image but it doesn't suit the contest.
If it was an image of Eve reaching for the apple with a greedy look then it would have been in but just an apple, sorry but it can't stay.
2007-10-08 [Kshatriya Karahatay]: Fair 'nough
2007-10-08 [Jitter]: :)
2007-10-13 [Vampire Akis]: Thanks people. :)
2007-10-15 [Lite]: Heh, gimme some more time and Ill get my pic up here. Why dont I see many b&w pics? Doesnt anyone appreciate their beauty? Or am I just colorblind...
2007-10-15 [Lite]: Hey, Dark Pixie, I'm using the official WarCraft desktop image of the one you drew here as my pc desktop image, lol. Although I would say, in the pic im using, she looks more proud than envious with her sneer.
2007-10-16 [Chrilith of Akhai]: My pic will be B&W, but it's not finished yet...
2007-10-16 [Azuri]: I is the sad, I was gonna enter this and then my usb buscard started to crash my computer :( now I cant even use a mouse with my laptop let alone my tablet >_<
2007-10-16 [Jitter]: :/ I'm so sorry :/
2007-10-16 [Morphea]: that sucks :(
2007-10-17 [Teufelsweib]: you can always use a more traditional medium? :)
2007-10-17 [Jitter]: Unless they prefer to avoid those like me xD
2007-10-19 [Jitter]: Very nice [Angelxblue] :D But maybe you mean Vain and Glutton? :)
2007-10-19 [Angelxblue]: yeah, that would probably make more sense :p
2007-10-19 [Jitter]: feel free to edit if you want :)
2007-10-21 [Jitter]: [Shika Lane] since you used reference from a very well known wall paper, we ask that it'd be nice if you provided a link to the original image as well along with your submission
2007-10-21 [Teufelsweib]: since when do you have to add a link to the reference..?
2007-10-21 [Jitter]: Since this: [470961 (Unknown or private posting)] :P
2007-10-21 [Shika Lane]: erm how do i do that? do i have to do that with everything? most of my drawings have some form of reference to them as like a stimulus (drama term for idea, starting point) and most of the time i don't keep track of them coz my pictures, stories, performances etc are not at all like them.with that one i didn't even know what the picture i used as "reference" was from until someone asked me if i'd used it from something. WOW or whatever.
2007-10-21 [Teufelsweib]: just search on the internet for world of warcraft, you'll find it quite easily =)
2007-10-21 [Shika Lane]: oki then
2007-10-21 [Teufelsweib]: or take this link: http://www.gam
2007-10-21 [Shika Lane]: oh cool thats the picture i found on my computer randomly
2007-10-21 [Shika Lane]: do i just add that to my entry then?
2007-10-21 [Teufelsweib]: as Jitter said, just put the link under your entry as reference =)
2007-10-21 [Shika Lane]: there we go everyone happy?
2007-10-21 [Teufelsweib]: very =)
2007-10-21 [H3_six]: A touch of randomness XD. Couldn't resist the contest title.
2007-10-21 [Jitter]: Yeah thank you [Shika Lane] :)
It's best if you give credit to stuff you use as reference everywhere but it's not essential. In contests though it is needed :)
2007-10-23 [Lite]: Must get... drawing up... before deadline... So many deadlines... So much homework... So little time... AARRRGGGHHH!!!
2007-10-23 [Jitter]: 23 days to go so don't fret :p
2007-10-24 [Jitter]: Ooh :O Awesome Runey :O
2007-10-24 [Lerune]: Thanks! I thought she fit the theme quite nicely. :D
2007-10-25 [Nevermore.]: there, my entry!
2007-10-25 [Fetish Dolly Koneko™]: Its truly awesome!
2007-10-25 [Jitter]: *agrees*
2007-10-25 [Morphea]: *noddes and agrees*
2007-10-25 [Nevermore.]: awe thanks
2007-10-27 [Turning Woman Into Machine]: In case you didn't notice, I portrayed Greed, Gluttony, and Wrath with green eyes, cannibalism, and bloodied claws/horns/ta
2007-10-27 [Jitter]: My apologies, I only saw the thumbnail last night and didn't notice the written words.
2007-10-27 [Lite]: Nearly done... A lot of great pics up here! *applauds*
2007-10-28 [Erubeus]: Must join.
-is a zombeh-
2007-10-28 [Erubeus]: It would be alright if there was a small drip of blood from the lip on her chin, right?
That's kind of her "trademark", the blood on the lip...
She always bites her lip...
Note: Her = Cheyanne Reykjavik, my upcoming entry.
2007-10-28 [Teufelsweib]: why not?=) as long as the entry has to do with the theme it's alright ^^
2007-10-28 [Erubeus]: Wh00t!
2007-10-28 [Jitter]: As long as it fits the theme and the drop of blood is tasteful and nothing very disturbing/gor
2007-10-28 [Erubeus]: Wh00t!... again!
2007-10-28 [Erubeus]: The title is, "The vain Ice princess lusts for her fiery Prince."
Hah..
Cheyanne and Rocksha.. :P
2007-10-28 [Lite]: Will marks be deducted if you add your name covering a section of your pic? Just for the sake of those who steal art...
2007-10-28 [Linderel]: Only if it's very prominent and taking away from the actual image. :P
2007-10-28 [Oh, this is still active? Lol]: Okay, then mine is fine, LOL!
2007-10-28 [Oh, this is still active? Lol]: I started to panic a tad bit. >.>
2007-10-28 [Lite]: lol, Uchihatasu, I just noticed you had a name on it...
Ok then, thanks for the info Linderel.
2007-10-29 [Jitter]: Consider a watermark if you want to be safe :) See how I did one of mine http://elftown
2007-10-29 [Black Raven]: Ah!how much it take?to close this contest!(I still don't finished mine!)
2007-10-29 [Jitter]: The deadline is in the front page of the contest The seven deadly sins competition :)
2007-10-30 [Lite]: Will you lose marks if you ask for picture title advice?
2007-10-30 [Jitter]: there aren't really marks involved in the judging procedure ;p An entry is either accepted or disqualified. Disqualificati
And no go ahead :) Title is optional by the way
2007-10-30 [Triola]: I really don't get this background rule. So [Cassave]'s image has a background because it's red, but [Angelxblue] and [Turning Woman Into Machine] don't, because theirs are white?
2007-10-30 [Jitter]: Read my comment again :P
2007-10-30 [Triola]: I still don't get the rule, whether or not you omitted it :P Enlighten moi :3
2007-10-30 [Jitter]: The background rule is usually there so the images look more finished. So having a coloured background instead of a white one makes it look more complete, even though if it's just some added colour.
2007-10-30 [Triola]: But the white background may in some cases be a deliberate choice by the artist to get a certain effect :P
2007-10-30 [Jitter]: In those certain cases be sure that it will show :P
2007-10-31 [Linderel]: [Nevermore.]: Please upload your entry on Elftown; linking from Elfpack won't do.
2007-11-01 [Lite]: Thanks for the suggestions everyone!!! And here is the pic! Its not all that great... But I can bet that you all have more art experience than me...Consideri
(Check out the full size version, theres much more detail)
2007-11-01 [Jitter]: I think it's very nice :) (especially for your age o_O wtf dude you're 13 and did that xD *claps*) If you want to see the progress of many now artists who create eyecandy for us all check--> Show your process :)
2007-11-01 [Erubeus]: Pft.
Wish I could shade...
Dx
2007-11-01 [Jitter]: I Hear that xD
2007-11-01 [Oh, this is still active? Lol]: I can shade sometimes. Depends how much caffiene i've had LOL!
2007-11-01 [Jitter]: Well if I *have* to, I can shade but I much prefer splashing paint than using a pencil to make tones :p
2007-11-01 [nehirwen]: I can shade a bit ^_^ but now I'm addicted to my wacom :p
2007-11-01 [Jitter]: yes <3
2007-11-01 [Morphea]: and what beautiful splashing you do Jitter :)
2007-11-01 [Jitter]: ^^; Thanks :)
And thanks for the edit Lin ;)
2007-11-01 [Linderel]: Welcome :3 *lick*
2007-11-01 [Lite]: Shading is somewhat easy for me. The only problem is working through it knowing that you have three assignments and one test this week, and four assignments and at least one test next week, and you are the study-on-the-d
Oh, and no worries, I only worked on this pic through lunch and late night. So little time...
2007-11-01 [nehirwen]: xD you look like me
2007-11-04 [Jitter]: I'm so happy I'm done with assignments no matter how much I loved being in school
2007-11-04 [Piercedskull]: can I still send in an entry?
2007-11-04 [nehirwen]: The Seven Deadly Sins Competition deadline is 15th November 2007, so you can ;)
2007-11-06 [Lite]: Love the pic, Jitter, lol. You always seem to come up with something for every competition.
(edits) WAIT A MINUTE' IF THIS IS YOUR COMPETITION, YOURE STILL ALLOWED TO ENTER???
2007-11-06 [Linderel]: In official competitions, even the hosting Council member(s) can participate as long as they don't vote for their own entry at any point in time. :)
2007-11-06 [Jitter]: Yes it's not really *my* competition :) I just organised it and am hosting it, like I helped hosting the Halloween ones :) And since I wouldn't vote for myself anyway there is no prob x)
Thanks by the way :)
2007-11-06 [Shika Lane]: oh wow, thats amazing [Black Raven]
2007-11-06 [Jitter]: I agree O_O WOW :O
2007-11-06 [Morphea]: gees*sighs* I`ve been gone for a couple of days and what happens...so many cool new enterings :)
2007-11-06 [Piercedskull]: *sniffle*I AM A HORRIBLE ARTIST!
2007-11-06 [Jitter]: No you're not. Noone is. All you need is practice :) *plugs Show your process yet again* see how horrible my art was just 3 years ago.
2007-11-06 [Morphea]: why?
2007-11-06 [Piercedskull]: Are you kidding?I could only pray I drew like that!
2007-11-06 [Jitter]: Why what? Why am I plugging? xD Cause I'm proud of how I exceled and I want to show to people that they should never give up! :3
But you probably weren't even talking to me x)
2007-11-06 [Morphea]: lol jitter not talking to you ;) Talking to piercedskull..
2007-11-06 [Piercedskull]: Its hard to have faith when your me...*sniffle*
2007-11-06 [Morphea]: *hugs big time*
2007-11-06 [Morphea]: eehm...Jitter how many acrylics did you make before the Phantom? 3? Your blessed !!!! *Jaleous*
2007-11-06 [Jitter]: yes :P But I've been painting digitally for a while and had a share of guache on paper so my hand is considered used to it:P
If this was my first piece of art and I had just picked the brush and created it then yes :P... By the way I suck.. I was painting when I was a kid and then abandoned it :( I could have been much better now T_T
2007-11-06 [Piercedskull]: *hits Jitter with a cookie*Bad!You do not suck!
2007-11-06 [Morphea]: No regrets ...We all did stupid things when we were children......
2007-11-06 [Nevermore.]: sorry about the 'non elftown' image, tis fixed.
I didnt know which one to put in, because i did all the sins as a massive set ><
2007-11-06 [Jitter]: *eats cookie*
When I was a kid I was way more creative :( I had much more ideas and ways to "solve" stuff about art. I feel that was somehow smothered at GD school and for ages I just tried to do everything the "right" way they indicated. It didn't help at all so now I just work again with the way I feel more comfortable with (Which is not pencils dammit xD)
2007-11-06 [Piercedskull]: squa
2007-11-06 [Nevermore.]: thanks! ^^ it was between that or Vanity..
I miss them all >< They are all away to belfast city for an art exhibition *strokes my babies*
2007-11-06 [Jitter]: Awww *hugs* I once gave one of my watercolours for framing and then I couldn't stop th8inking when the time would come to go and take it back x)
2007-11-06 [Nevermore.]: gah, i think imma change my entry
Its annoying! tis like giving away a child!
2007-11-06 [Jitter]: I like your Wrath, Greed and Gluttony much :)
2007-11-06 [Piercedskull]: how many entries can we put in?
2007-11-06 [Nevermore.]: Thankyou! ^^ i miss them. I did them for my AS level art class ^^
Though i changed my entry. Didn't use any of the 7 set though
2007-11-06 [Nevermore.]: "4. EACH MEMBER MAY SUBMIT ONE (1) ENTRY (per category - Art/Photo/Poet
2007-11-06 [Jitter]: Ah this one is great too :)
I have made a "Lust" piece before and an "envy" one but They're old and I had entered it in a contest where it won before so I made a new one :)
2007-11-06 [Nevermore.]: awe thanks ^^ i wish it was 2 entrys per person ><
2007-11-06 [Jitter]: It's usually two, just was a newbie when I set this contest up so I didn't consider the popularity of the theme ^^;
These are my old ones:
There:
http://elftown
http://elftown
2007-11-06 [Nevermore.]: ohhh nice!! love em!
I Need to get better ><
2007-11-06 [Jitter]: Nah you're great :) I'm really not happy with those two, they were some of my first attempts at vectors and I didn't do as much shading as I wanted. The Lust piece is quite ok but the Envy one needs much more work to be considered good by my -current- standards *looks at mainstreet poll* Why yes I'm my own worst nightmare xD
2007-11-06 [Nevermore.]: awe thanks.
Did you do it on the computer??
2007-11-06 [Jitter]: You're welcome ^_^
Yes, I'm more of a digital artist. I recently discovered acrylics which I find very nice to work with but I'm way better at digital :) *points jitter art*
2007-11-06 [Nevermore.]: I would have no idea what to do with a mouse...i can only use pencils or paint..
I got very into acrylic..well i thought it was..it looked acrylic..but i actualy read it months later and it said 'concentraited water colour'...in other words, water it down to use right . 0_0
though it works ok ^^
2007-11-06 [Jitter]: hahaha xD Yeah I had no idea guache and watercolours were a different thing :P I was using guache to work on aquarelles *giggles* I've been using a mouse till middle 2005, then I got my beloved wacom tablet ^^
2007-11-06 [Nevermore.]: i couldnt do it with either! i dunno how to work photoshop or anything. Too confuseing for me ><
I wish i could though..I find you get better quality to upload digital art than if you were to take a scan or a pic of the painting or drawing..it usually kills it. like all my stuff looks better face to face
2007-11-06 [Jitter]: Yeah I know, although it really depends. For example I have taken some photos or made scans of some of my traditional pieces that I find they're of much better quality than what my digital work ended up as x)
Digital is nice but since you're already very good with your mediums I'd suggest if you decide to go digital, you'd better get a program like Corel Painter that provides digital painting tools similar to the traditional, although I wouldn't part with Photoshop ^^ I feel I'm slowing myself down by trying to excel to both at the same time but at points I'm just sick of the one or the other medium x)
2007-11-06 [Nevermore.]: i have gimp and a few others on my comp, but they look so scary to learn how to use. Im thinking i might take a course in it >< be easier that way. Though at the moment I am actually making a dress. Baised on the element of air. Im starting it tomorrow *whimper* im quite scared. Its so big and flowy
2007-11-06 [Jitter]: Photoshop Layers for newbies <- A tutorial I worte:)
Try Elftown Tutorials if you ever try it :) They're easily read :)
And ooh a dress :O I can't sew at all x3 Well not really at all just I really can't bother myself with it :(
2007-11-06 [Nevermore.]: hehe! yay! i will have a look after i come back rom my development class *ish cant wait to meditate and do trance again*
lol, its easy enough when you know what your doing..sewing machines scare me though. I do alot of hand sewing, like i make my own bags and stuff. I like having one off things ^^
Between art and sewing, i get a good lot of commissions, so im hoping to get more money to travel some in the summer.
2007-11-06 [Jitter]: I have never sold anything yet :(
2007-11-06 [Nevermore.]: *cuddles* You should! your better than I am!
though i do alot of peoples kids, like for christmas presents for their other halfs >< Can get annoying
2007-11-06 [Jitter]: I I'd have no problem with that x)
Noone around here would buy digital art though :s
*huggles* Nawww not better than you no way xD
2007-11-06 [Nevermore.]: lol, its kinda like "ah..so you want a painting for your other half...how cute...sucks being single" *dies* lol
You are better than I am,...really. My shading has gone to the dogs these past few months. Tis depressing. Though im 17, i have alot to learn ^^
2007-11-06 [Jitter]: Aww :( Isee your point. I'm married though so I guess I wouldn't think that as an issue ^^;
And meh I was crap when I was 17 so shush xP
2007-11-06 [Nevermore.]: lol your lucky. ive been single for almost 3 years ><
Lol! i bet not! >< Tis all good, your still amazing!
2007-11-06 [Morphea]: gees....My aunt called me and she likes to talk looong on the phone..*ear hurts* ....[Nevermore.] how do you set your prizes on the commissions you get?
2007-11-06 [Jitter]: *giggles*
I've been single forever with small breaks till 2004 xD And since I'm happy now I don't really mind that I spent those years single x)
2007-11-06 [Nevermore.]: Lol. I guess im just not the 'involved' type..im picky ^^
[Morphea] what do you mean?
2007-11-06 [Morphea]: I mean how do you determind what is the right prize for a pic?
do you take in consideration how long time it took to make , how big,,etc or do you have a fixed prize ?.......someon
2007-11-06 [Nevermore.]: ohhh. I usually just ask what size and medium. Like if it was a pencil drawing, it would be cheaper than a painting, because paints run out quicker and cost alot to buy in.
2007-11-06 [Morphea]: Lets say an A3 pencil drawing .....what would you charge for that? A portrait
2007-11-06 [Black Raven]: Thank you [Jitter] & [Shika Lane]!! ^_^
2007-11-06 [Nevermore.]: usually not that much actually..abou
2007-11-06 [Morphea]: ok Thanks. I just don`t know how much to charge for my work
2007-11-06 [Jitter]: I think you mean prices [Morphea] :) A prize is the reward when you win something *giggles* Ooh that would be around 60 euros o_O I never dreamt I could charge so much o-O
2007-11-06 [Triola]: This is interesting to know about :) How much would you guys charge for a 55cm x 70cm oil painting?
2007-11-06 [Jitter]: I'd charge about 70 euros I think but for acrylics. I have no clue how oils cost here though and I'm not really comfortable with my traditional painting yet.
2007-11-06 [Triola]: Ooh, nice :D I'll be rich then, as my 'customer' has already agreed to pay 100 euros :D
2007-11-06 [Jitter]: Oooh nice :O
I think I'm going to put on an add on our shop that I do paintings and all... ;)
2007-11-06 [Triola]: Ooh, good idea :D
2007-11-06 [Jitter]: I must ask a family friend about it . She's a tax inspector, I wouldn't want to get in trouble because I'd sell something I'm not allowed to o_O
2007-11-06 [Triola]: Haha, good thinking :P
2007-11-07 [Morphea]: *giggles* yup I mean prices...
2007-11-07 [Nevermore.]: I used to charge alot less, but that was when i KNEW i was crap. when i got better and i got more people asking me, it was taking up my schooling time, so i had to charge more, after all i was getting into trouble. And i do art in school, so my resourses were low for that as i was usuing them for commissions. i needed
to stock up lol
2007-11-07 [Jitter]: heheheheh I see what you mean xD
2007-11-07 [Nevermore.]: sorry i only got back now, i didnt get back from my development class till really late
2007-11-07 [Jitter]: No need to apologise :)
2007-11-07 [Nevermore.]: ^^ Development class was gooooooooood ^^
2007-11-07 [Jitter]: I tidied my bookcase ^_^ It's so neat and organised now *stands in front of it with pitchfork* I hope hubby doesn't mess it up again xD
2007-11-07 [Nevermore.]: put a sign up! ^^ "mess my bookcase if you dare!"
i cant believe i was at my development class barely 14 hrs ago, and i already need another meditation...C
2007-11-07 [Jitter]: hehe maybe I will xD
2007-11-07 [Nevermore.]: ^^ kick ass!
2007-11-07 [Lite]: Haha, how much do you think a 13-year-old can charge classmates per drawing? (Please, in Canadian or USA money, i hate having to convert it from euros)
2007-11-07 [Nevermore.]: i dont work in euros, i work in pounds. its really up to the individual. I dont know what you would concider as reasonable
2007-11-07 [Jitter]: Considering 13 year olds don't have shitloads of money I'd say about ten euros/dollars per drawing :P (sorry cba to convert either)
2007-11-07 [Lite]: Id go outta buisness :P Who carries 10$ in their pocket?
2007-11-07 [Erubeus]: -raises hand- I carry fifteen sometimes.. That is, when I was in school ^_^
Now, I just keep my money in my game case.. ^.^
2007-11-07 [Nevermore.]: i carry nothing, concidering i dont work >< though i do get paid for going to school ^^ thats good.
2007-11-08 [Lite]: No one is serious about art at my school. They see the art, complement it with "ooo"s and "aaa"s, but arent willing to pay big for it(tenbucks is big). Im not all that good (or im just hypercritical, or every other student sucks) and Im considered the top artist at my school :/
A question for artists when they were in grade school: What would you do if you were up to the neck with homework, and kids (from ages 5 to 13), ask you to draw for them (only one or two are willing to pay you, and under 5 bucks)
2007-11-08 [Erubeus]: Pft..
Blow them off like they didn't exist.. Unless they were friends.. Because I didn't do homeowrk C:
2007-11-08 [Nevermore.]: lol do your school work first..then if you have time, do the ones you will get money for
2007-11-08 [Jitter]: I agree with what [Nevermore.] said ;)
2007-11-08 [nehirwen]: that makes sense indeed ^^
2007-11-08 [Erubeus]: Nah..
I could care less for money. Money is just a number.
2007-11-08 [nehirwen]: money can improve the quality of your life.. so..that number can be seen as important for a lot of people ;)
2007-11-08 [Erubeus]: Yes, but not me. =/ -shrugs-
2007-11-08 [Nevermore.]: money can get you to the places you want to be^^ I value it, but i dont treasure it
2007-11-08 [nehirwen]: nice said [Nevermore.] ^^
2007-11-08 [Nevermore.]: Why thankyou [nehirwen] ^^ *bows*
Its getting me to see the world...and if i didnt see the world, i would have nothing to inspire me to draw...nor anything to draw WITH. ^^
2007-11-08 [Erubeus]: I'm sorry for this..
Dx
2007-11-08 [Nevermore.]: o0 huh?
2007-11-08 [Erubeus]: My picture..
It's horrible quality..
Dx
2007-11-08 [nehirwen]: I like it already [Erubeus], hope you can finish it before the deadline, I 'm certainly curious about the end result ^^
2007-11-08 [Erubeus]: You and me both. =/
2007-11-08 [Erubeus]: Anyways, thank you.
2007-11-08 [Jitter]: Glad you decided to join and I'm looking forward to the finish piece :) If it's not ready by the deadline I won't be able to include the placeholder though sorry :s
2007-11-09 [Erubeus]: No worries.
2007-11-11 [Turning Woman Into Machine]: Wow, [Black Raven], I love your entry...
Not to say I don't like everyone else's. ^_^' I like this contest. The seven sins are by far my favorite concept, and even though I have nothing to do with the judging/creati
2007-11-11 [Jitter]: :D
2007-11-11 [Black Raven]: Thank you so much[Turning Woman Into Machine]!
Happy you like it! :D
2007-11-13 [taleya]: I like GIRL BEHIND THE DIAMOND MASK very, very much! The artist is very talented indeed!
2007-11-13 [Nevermore.]: awe *cuddles* thankyou
2007-11-15 [Changer]: Wow.[Artsieladie] that is very good!
2007-11-15 [Artsieladie]: I just fixed a couple of details I wasn't quite happy with. :P
2007-11-15 [Black Raven]: Yes!it's cool [Artsieladie]! like always ;)
2007-11-15 [Artsieladie]: Thanks! :D ...And so is yours...as always, too. ;-)
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